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jaymac3
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 Posted - 02/15/2010 : 17:53:29
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It is not only the Park Authority who need to hear the opinions of everyone who uses or visits the Loch and its shores.
Every group who is concerned with the protection of our heritage on one hand and, on the other, the rights of well behaved and reasonable individuals, should send their comments and suggestions to clubs, groups and associations like the LLA who will be involved in consultations with the Park Authority about these proposals.
It is only by hearing directly from those concerned, can information be gathered which will affect decisions as to what might be acceptable or not if camping in any place in the designated zone on the east shore other than in an approved official site becomes law.
Does this concern YOU? Do YOU have views on this subject? If so, why now start the ball rolling by posting your thoughts right here in the LLA forum. I believe the committee would be glad to consider every angle which this would involve.
Let's hear from you pease!
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MMA-REP
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 18:14:29
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PROPOSED NATIONAL PARK BYELAW TO BAN INAPPROPRIATE CAMPING ON THE EAST SHORE
JAYMAC3 is right to highlight this issue. The background to this thread is that LL & TT National Park Authority on 8th February 2010 launched a public consultation on their intention to introduce a new byelaw for the above purpose. The consultation will run until 3rd May 2010, and the forms of response (on-line & download) may be found at:
http://www.lochlomond-trossachs.org/visiting/east-loch-lomond-camping-byelaws-consultation/menu-id-611.html
The effects and NPA's reasons for the proposed new byelaw are fully detailed as part of the consultation document itself, and so no further explanation of these is needed here.
As always, where issues arise affecting Loch Lomond's waters and its riparian shores, these come before the LLA committee for discussion and, where necessary, we submit LLA consultations / recommendations.
The LLA committee will be discussing this intended byelaw at its monthly meeting in early March, in the presence of senior NPA representatives.
Please feel free to post YOUR views on our forum in reply to this thread's subject matter, giving YOUR opinions. These views will be advised to our committee at our meeting for their due consideration.
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bigman
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/04/2010 : 14:22:10
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i am a little concerned about this bylaw,while i understand why the npa feel it is needed ihope when or if it is passed a bit of common sense is used by the rangers and they look upon walkers and anglers in a more tolerant attitude than the nutters who caused all the trouble
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NipandTuck
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Posted - 03/08/2010 : 13:51:06
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Originally posted by bigman
i am a little concerned about this bylaw,while i understand why the npa feel it is needed ihope when or if it is passed a bit of common sense is used by the rangers and they look upon walkers and anglers in a more tolerant attitude than the nutters who caused all the trouble
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i reckon most folk will be in two minds about it, bigman, but what else to do. these nutters need driven off for sure, and yes the rangers and police will need to show some common savvy in practise what ever the new byelaw says.
what i want to know is where are the rangers planning on putting there own managed campsites (other than the cashel & milarrochy ones)? the byelaw map only shows the outline of the planned no camping zone - not where you can camp with park approval. the consultation should surely have that info on it as well if they want the public to support it. |
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MMA-REP
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/11/2010 : 14:04:16
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PROPOSED NATIONAL PARK CAMPING-BAN BYELAW
As advised earlier in this thread, this topic was discussed at the LLA March meeting with an NPA executive director, two other National Park representatives, and the LLA's senior police advisor present.
As might be expected, there were diverse considered opinions expressed, and not all of these were wholly supportive of the camping ban proposals as tabled. The LLA has closely tracked and input to many meetings over recent years. In these, the appalling behavious of considerable numbers of visiting east-shore louts have been reported.
Also discussed has been the disproportionate and escalating cost of funding the park rangers time and police presence needed through the summer months to deal with them. Additionally the time and cost to clean up their aftermath of damage, litter and excrement is highly excessive, not to mention offensive for those living / working locally, who suffer most on the front-line of this on-going annual saga.
However despite some concerns, it was agreed by a substantial overall committee majority that the LLA would support the NPA's proposed byelaw ban. It will register it's points of concern on behalf of the thus disadvantaged law-abiding majority of deprived east-shore campers, within its byelaw consultation when returned to the National Park.
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jaymac3
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/11/2010 : 14:42:27
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Yes, it is unfortunate that no alternatives were stated in the proposals about irresponsible camping although, somewhere it was mentioned that Sallochy was an obvious choice. However, since that area comes under thr cotrol of Forest Enterprise, it will be up to them to decide whether they would establish a managed site on their own (unlikely) or with a commercial partner.
In that even, what would probably emerge would be another Cashel. This is well managed and even bans any possible hooligan element but is not the sort of place to stop for an hour or two to enjoy the scenery and your picnic in peace and quiet.
Perhaps one for that sort of use could be Lochan Maoil Dhuinne if it was rigidly controlled and overnight camping was banned same as Milarrochy where the gates are closed at dusk and all vehicles are evicted! Something like that must be put in place if that spot was not to be ravaged in the same way it was over recent years until vehicular traffic was banned - which was a result of it not being controlled at all.
Anybody thinks any other sites could be usefully provided?
Cheers...jaymac3
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groundgripper
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/01/2010 : 13:38:52
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About time the NPA acted to protect the environment of the loch rather than the "right" of the idiots to trash it.
Will the LLA now also press for the same action on the islands to protect many of the popular spots regularly trashed by boatowners.Conservation is supposed to be the highest priority for the LLA so lets see a view put to the NPA that action is needed on the islands also. |
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